Love or hate, rip or rep, Eddie Huang doesn’t lose much sleep over public opinion. That’s not to say the outspoken entrepreneur lacks compassion. On the contrary, his conversation with legendary radio host Miss Info (a.k.a. Minya Oh) of Hot 97 shows he’s as thoughtful as he is opinionated.

As part of Chapter 51: Leaders, the pair sat down at Eddie Huang’s restaurant, BaoHaus, in downtown NYC, to discuss his memoir Fresh Off The Boat, growing up Asian-American in the US, eating soap, sports fucking, and not letting your work define you. Watch a snippet of the interview in the video above, and find the full interview in the FRANK Book.