This is a continuation of last week’s phone conversation with Bret Maverick, who runs a YouTube channel from Washington where he offers advice to the medical marijuana community. His speciality is in concentrates. Here he goes deeper into the products he makes, the particulars of active oil,

What’s the brand name you sell your products under?
Herbal Healing Collective Garden is the name of the local dispensary that sells all my products, and they also wholesale them to other dispensaries throughout the state.

What products do you make?
Shatter, activated oil that comes in pills, CBD pills, THC pills, edibles, and syringes of regular oil. The syringes help patients dose themselves out properly measured doses.

What is decarboxylation?
Whenever you are eating oil through edibles or pills or something like that, every cannabinoid like THC, CBD, and CBN, has a carboxyllic acid molecule attached to it. What you want to do is heat it up to the point where that is gone. It strongly increases the levels of THC when you lose that molecule. When you smoke it, you heat it to the point where the molecule is gone and then the effects are much stronger.

When did you start making the pills?
The last three months.

How have patients responded to the pills?
We have had a crazy good response. Patients love the therapeutic effects of the CBD pills, and they love the highs from the high THC pills.

What is active oil?
It’s Rick Simpson oil, an orally ingested concentrated marijuana oil with incredible healing properties.

How are sales of active oil?
It’s amazing. I think I see more grams of that go then BHO. A lot of people like to take it in pills, and a lot of cancer patients take it because they know the possible effects. I have even seen it clear up psoriasis when applied topically to the skin mixed with coconut oil.

What is the biggest mistake amateur BHO makers make?
Not paying attention, cutting corners. This leads to things like blowing yourself up. I hate to say it, but it’s a popular subject these days. If you can’t keep yourself safe when you are making it, then how can you suggest you are making a healthy and safe product in the end?

What do you think when you hear about an explosion on the news?
It’s scary. It definitely makes me want to check what I am doing, pay more attention to every step, make sure I am doing it safe. But with a close loop system, it makes it so much safer. Sure it can be dangerous if you don’t know how to use it, and of course I don’t advocate people using it while they are drunk or stoned, but it is pretty safe.

How is legalization going up there in Washington?
It’s kind of a mess. Everything is kind of in the gray area, and the only thing that is really clear in the law is how many plants per patient are allowed. There is no ruling on how to work out distribution like they have in Colorado, so everything is kind of just up in the air right now. They have dispensaries for medical patients, but nothing set up for recreational yet.

How does law enforcement treat marijuana use in Seattle these days?
Since 2003, marijuana enforcement has been the lowest priority for local police in the Seattle area. I have walked down the street smoking a joint and walked right passed a cop and had no issues. They are really relaxed here about pot. I haven’t even heard of any raids in about eight months.

What are your plans for the future?
The shop I work with has applied for a recreational permit. We purchased land where we will be building a lab that will grow and produce medicine, package medicine, and sell to patients. I will be there doing all the concentrate related production.

Brian Kaiser is Philly, born and raised. After attending Temple University he moved to California where he works and consults in the burgeoning marijuana industry. Kaiser currently pushes for cannabis legalization on both a state and national level, a process that begins with sharing information.